The Sherpa's View: Four Decades of French Diplomacy with Philippe Étienne

What does it take to hold France's place at the centre of Europe's biggest crises?

In this episode of Policy Punchline, Philippe Etienne, France's Ambassador to the United States from 2019 to 2023, joins Princeton students Alice McCarthy ’27 and Darden Shuman ’27 to discuss his memoir, Le Sherpa. A career diplomat for more than four decades, Etienne explains why he gave the book that title when his work went well beyond preparing summits for a head of state.

The conversation starts with his unusual route from mathematics at the École Normale Supérieure into the diplomatic service. It follows him to Belgrade in the early 1980s, then to Moscow from 1991 to 1994, where he watched the Soviet Union collapse and the early career of Boris Nemtsov. From there we move to Brussels during the Eurozone crisis, to Berlin, and to the fault lines in Franco-German relations on economic policy, defence projects and energy.

Etienne then recalls working with Emmanuel Macron on Donald Trump's first-term Washington, including the April 2018 state visit and the Iran deal that fell apart two weeks later. He describes the 2021 AUKUS recall, when Paris pulled its ambassador from Washington for the first time in nearly 250 years of relations, and how he worked to rebuild trust once he returned. We also ask what Europe can do about the war in Iran, how America changed during his posting, and what a NATO that functions without the United States would require, including Britain's role.

We close by focusing on how to be an effective diplomat, how Germans, Russians and Americans each negotiate, and how he navigated those differences.

This interview is part of the Policy Punchline podcast series. Supported by Princeton's Julis-Rabinowitz Center for Public Policy and Finance, the series aims to foster dialogue on critical public-policy issues, connecting listeners with leading experts from around the world.

Join us as Philippe Etienne looks back on a career spent in the room for some of Europe's hardest decisions, and explains what comes next for the transatlantic alliance.

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